Disband the IRS, the FCC, and the EPA

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Just a random thought that's been going through my head lately. Why are these agencies allowed to exist in our government?

My beef: They all make regulations and policies that have the effect of law...and they do it without the consent of the people. Furthermore, they enforce these laws on the people without due process.

How does this happen? Am I the only one this bothers? I don't hear much opposition to them. So why aren't they challenged in court when they confiscate property and throw fines around like they grow on trees?

If anyone knows of any court decisions on this subject, I'd like to check them out.

Stay tuned for my rantings on the Supreme Court's abuse of the Constitution.

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James Young said:

Yes! And Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, NOT a government agency.

No Relation said:

Good call, James.

It amazes me to see the outcry over the so called violations of Constitutional rights by the NSA, while these agencies have been committing far more blatant violations for decades.

Dept of Education, Dept of Energy. Further outside the box: the United Nations.

No Relation said:

For those of us in agreement here: Where are the court battles? You'd think there would be more challenges.

Blake said:

What a suprising lack of knowledge being shown here... government rules and regulations are promulgated with opportunity for public review and comment. Before they get to that stage they undergo review by all federal agencies with an interst and the OMB. Congress holds hearings on them and directs/edits the laws that gave these agencies the direction to promulgate the regs. If you go to www.epa.gov you can find out what rules are out for comment and comment on them there rather than here!

zimzo said:

Here's how the Federal Government works, kids:


If you encounter too many big words on this site, there is something called a "Dictionary" where you can look them up.

No Relation said:

Zimzo and Blake:

I will have to check out your links.

Blake, I want my elected officials to vote on the bills before they become laws. Just like the Constitution says.

Also, answer me this: Where in Article I of the Constitution is the US Congress given the authority to regulate the environment and the airwaves?

And while the 16th Amendment gives Congress the right to collect taxes, I can't find a 5th Amendment exemption for the IRS. That's no deprivation of property without due process of law, kids.

zimzo said:

How stupid of those founding fathers not to put anything in the Constitution about regulating radio and TV.

zimzo said:

The IRS was created by the Revenue Act of 1862 passed by Congress and signed by President Lincoln.

No Relation said:

Thanks for the info on the IRS and I still have a problem with the way they do business.

As for the airwaves, I'd say the founding fathers were wisely forsaw that times and technology would change...that's why they gave us the amendment process. Although, with the FCC the 1st Amendment somehow doesn't apply.

Blake said:

well..one can argue that congress has the right to establish laws through "To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces; " and the airwaves through the commerce clause "To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; " since the airwaves go between the states. Congress could indeed write all the rules and regulations that govt. agencies write. Instead, in the laws they do write, they direct agencies to promulgate the regs and give them direction. Often times, from a govt employee perspective, we wish they would give more direction than they do. Absent that, we draft them, put them out for public (and regulated industry comment) and then modify them, promulgate and implement. Your representatives ARE voting on the laws that tell agencies to promulgate regs. Given the torturous 2 year process it typically takes..no govt agencies dervies "fun" from promulgating regs... particularly in areas where the law ordering the promulgation is in direct conflict with this administrations political direction. All regs reference the authority/direction that told them to promulgate that particular reg. If you dont like it.. tell your rep to change the law that directed the agency to promulgate it.

No Relation said:

Blake, here's one they don't teach in the public schools anymore:

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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