Whole Loaf Immigration Policy Evolves

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The problem is our GOP senators have misidentified the loaf.

The "whole loaf" isn't "comprehensive" immigration reform. The whole loaf is the whole border is shut down and the whole U.S. business environment requires legal workers everywhere under the threat of draconian penalties against employers who hire illegal aliens.

More below.

Republicans better try to do something:

Top Republicans are planning a series of tough new border-security measures that they hope can get through the Senate, which in the past has opposed border-security legislation unless it has included a guest-worker program and grants citizenship rights to the estimated 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens already here.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Tennessee Republican, said yesterday it would be "next to impossible" to approve such comprehensive immigration reform, but several key senators said they are willing to consider a border-security-only approach.

"If our only options are a half a loaf or no loaf, then I'd be inclined to take half a loaf," said Sen. John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who for years has been a leading advocate of comprehensive immigration reform that secures the borders....

House Republicans say they get little credit for having approved a border-security bill 10 months ago and the Republican Congress as a whole gets little credit for the border-security improvements that have passed both chambers.

The latest bill to fund the Iraq war, for instance, contained $1.9 billion for beefed up border patrol. And by year's end, Congress is expected to have approved another $20 billion.

The sticking point for border-security legislation has been a handful of Senate Republicans who sided with most Democrats to oppose any immigration bill that doesn't include a guest-worker program and provisions to grant citizenship to the majority of the illegal alien population.

Some, however, are having second thoughts as the November midterm elections near.

"If all we could get through is border security and work-site enforcement, I could support that," Mr. Cornyn said yesterday....

Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas has been another stalwart Republican opposed to the border-security-only approach. But yesterday, he said he's "not sure" how he would vote on such a bill now.

"I'd like to see us do something. I'd like to see us do something comprehensive," he said. "But I would look at it."

Even Sen. Mel Martinez, the Florida Republican who wrote the compromise bill that ultimately passed the Senate, has softened to the idea.

"It really would depend on what it looked like," he said yesterday.

Such legislation could also pick up a few Democrats. A handful already have expressed public support for a straight border-security bill. And yesterday, Sen. Mark Pryor, the Arkansas Democrat who has supported comprehensive legislation, said yesterday he would consider a border bill.

Mr. Martinez acknowledged that, without a major immigration bill passing both chambers, Republicans have a problem on their hands heading into November.

"It was a serious risk when we left here in July with this cocky attitude that this would be a better political issue for us if we get nothing done on it," he said. "That was a real mistake."

That vulnerability was clear yesterday with Mr. Frist's "next to impossible" statement about comprehensive reform.

Within hours, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who has been on the forefront of immigration reform, issued a statement.

"How can Republicans say they are for making America safer when they can't even pass a comprehensive immigration-reform bill to protect our borders?

Apart from reminding us why no one should EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, this news item also impresses upon us the need to have better Republicans running for office.

THAT is the major malfunction in American politics.

We know where Ted Kennedy wants to take us. We know Bill Frist and Sam Brownback are trying to lead us down the same garden path. They're all living in gated communities and they want us to suck up the fact that our neighborhood quality of life is declining daily.

They better take the "half loaf." And they better realize the rest of the loaf is to finish the job on border security and worker IDs.

And I'm not talking about Bill Frist or any of the others who voted for S.2611. They are goners. Frist's presidential dreams are toast. I'm talking about the few Republican senators who still have some credibility on the immigration issue. Their only loaf is to fix the problem and end the influx of illegal aliens.

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Had Enough said:

"comprehensive" immigration reform? We never needed reform!

All we have needed was enforcement of the laws that are already on the books.

What has happened to this country is total neglect. I hope they all pay the price for their negligence.

All they keep saying is that nothing has worked. How do they know what works and what doesn't? No one has tried to enforce anything.

Now they are in over their heads and acting like they don't know what happened.

For years they have argued over the anchor babies. While they argued 300,000 more anchor babies were born here each year. These same anchors have social security numbers which many of their parents are using. They are receiving medicare and SSI and numerous other benefits.

The fugitive holed up in the church in Chicago tried to get a restraining order!

The judge dismissed it, but you see the mentality.

The churches need to separate themselves from politics and return to praying. I understand more people are complaining to the IRS to have tax exempt status removed on many.

It's on the verge of the tipping point H.E. - maybe past it for California. I think we still have a chance here in the East. Are you in VA?

Stay Puft Marshmallow Man said:

what's with "loaf"??

(more later)

Quote from a genius Republican in the article linked

Had Enough said:

Oh yes, Loudoun County. I was in Fairfax for years, it really went downhill fast.

We used to be able to sit in our backyard at late at night then all of a sudden there were hispanic men walking up and down our road and sometimes cutting through our yard all times of the day and night.

One night I came home about 11:pm and everything was stone cold silent. After I entered the house with a uneasy feeling, I went to a back downstairs bedroom and thought I saw something in the window.

I looked around, turned on the outside light and saw nothing so I went upstairs. As I reached the top stair someone was beating on the front door as hard as they could.

I woke up my husband and he went to the front door (that had windows in the top) and saw a hispanic man there still beating on the door. When he spoke to him through the door the man kept saying telephone. He told him to go up the street several blocks pointing east.

The man took off running west.

This was only one of numerous incidents.

geo said:

If this were to happen I wonder if the Pres would sign it. Somthing to consider....

Geo - GOOD QUESTION. Bush can't be that clueless, so if it made it through the Senate somehow I think he'd have to know life had served him up a high hanging breaking ball. It would be the best possible thing to happen to him, Frist, McCain, Rove and the whole clueless bunch. They surely can read a weathervane.

geo said:

I'm not sure he would. He's got that whole "be a friend to the stranger" thing going. Also he's the one pushing for the open borders thing (sending Karl down to Congress to talk to the peeps).

If an enforcement only bill(by some miracle) gets to his desk it's still going to take a full court press to avoid a veto (think Harriet Myers level of push back).

Ultimately we're battling a bunch of RINOs that would rather scuttle the ship then go where the American people want them to go. They think they know better and that astounds me.

My concern if we lose the house is that the Dems rework the immigration plan to be more open borders friendly. If that happens the only thing stopping a dem engineered open borders bill will be the Dems need to not look like their working with the Pres (to appease the base bush haters). But if the Dems are smart they'll see how hugely demobilizing that would be to the GOP base (if the Pres signed a monster like this - kinda like no child left behind).

The result would probable be a third party that will dilute the conservative movement for several elections.

We're on the same page, geo. Predicting the possible outcomes of possible legislative scenarios is tricky, and probably a precursor to ulcers and other stress-related afflictions.

Better to bear in mind the additional fact that there is a huge silent majority outraged about the effects of illegal immigration. This is how political realignments take place.

Don't ever underestimate the broad streak of idiocy running through the Democratic party. Hold the image of Howard Dean's face in your mind. Relax. Isn't that better?

IF the conditions for a third party arise the dilution will be much wider than just within the conservative movement, IMHO.

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