"Immigration Liberals" Follow Up, pt 3
Still more replies to this morning's immigration post.
Stay Puft weighs in with the following:
Jerry,It isn't true that Mexicans are paid less for harvesting crops. Jobs like picking berries tend to be paid by the amount you pick, not what country you're a citizen of.
Any one of us can pick up our bushel basket and head over to the local berry patch. We don't because the compensation isn't worth the trouble. What's your "right price" for picking berries? Could a farmer pay everyone involved in a harvest that price and still keep the price of the berries low enough that people would buy them?
LC:
I always get a kick out of people saying "this country was founded on the rule of law" For one thing, people only say this when they're talking about immigration, and the fact is that this country began with a revolution fought by what we would today call an insurgency of illegal enemy combatants (the original minutemen)
also, Joe,
I forgot the obligatory CIS-is-a-lousy-source-which-exists-to -distribute- Chris-Simcox's-essays-and-present- awards-to-Lou-Dobbs-under-a-guise-of- intellectual-honesty clause. so there it is.
Maybe agricultural products are not the clearest example of what I'm talking about ... but the simple fact remains: if producers paid more for each bushel or whatever, citizens could be attracted to do the work.
Thanks for the disclaimer, also. Everyone, be sure to read Gozer's more extensive reply here.
Loudoun Conservative has a further reply below the fold.
Loudoun Conservative says:
Stay Puft,Re-read your history -- original sources, not the revisionist stuff.
The Americans, or rebels, if you prefer, insisted that the Lex Rex doctrine established in English common law since the Magna Charta, was being violated by young King George. They were not being treated as English citizens. If the law binds all and all are equal before it, then the King does not have the option of treating some subjects differently than others. Thus, the American revolution was a conservative revolution -- not against the law but for it. This principle has descended to us from them. For those who take it seriously, rule of law is not a trite phrase fit to particular situations but an over-riding principle that informs our policy perspective.
You remind us of Christian charity to our neighbors to the South. And, as a Christian, I gladly use the resources God has given me to help others, including my Latin American neighbors. But as a citizen who understands the rule of law, I know that the responsibility of the government under the law is first to people who live under that law. While I have a personal duty of charity to those from every nation, my government (and I as its agent, whether as a voter or an elected) do not have the same responsibility to the people of Mexico as to the people of the United States. Likewise, the government of Mexico does not have the same responsibility to the people of the US as to its own citizens.
This differentiation does not answer all questions but it does help with them. It does tell us how we can serve first to protect our own people in time of war, acting in our national interest, and also seek the universal good of liberty for all peoples.
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